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The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
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myelaine: "I'm the one who is finding and pointing out the moral high ground and you're not."
I may have missed the post where you answered but I previously asked why such 'redemption' requires a premature death. I take it, that from your point of view, some of those people would turn 'evil' and thus offend God by becoming unredeemable.
A little bit of logic here. Can't some of those victims be unredeemed at that moment but redeemed in the future?
Never mind, I do not have the mind of 'God' and am thus guilty of presumptuousness.
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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage
by freemindfade in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
wow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.

not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
Village Idiot

WTBTS: "You can be sure he did not fall asleep again"
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Seriously now, all he had to do was to stay away from the window.
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The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
Village Idiot

@ myelaine:
"I'd like to remind you of the fact that we are discussing actual people and they deserve to be discussed with dignity. I think it's vulgar the way you bring them into the conversation like some kind of offence to you that God has to answer for."
That statement could be considered ironic.
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
Village Idiot

@ myelaine: "you're a deist..."
As I stated on one of my posts "I speak as an atheist." I just wanted to bring up to cofty that there's a variety of theisms.
From what I understand of some Deists simply believe that a god created the universe and then left it alone to evolve on its own. Such a god could be considered sort of a cosmic scientist who created this universe as an experiment to see the results but otherwise is absent as far as the affairs of men are concerned. Also, a Deist does not necessarily believe in immortality of the soul.
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
Village Idiot

@ myelain:
"being "able" to die of old age isn't a guarantee for a good life, or a righteous life. It's a fact that some wax worse and worse as time goes by."
So babies are killed so that they don't grow up to be major sinners?
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"Whilst the bible is important, the Watchtower is God's main way of communicating with people today"
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
yes, i'm not kidding!.

this gem was stated today in the talk!

(shortly before i walked out).
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@ millie210: "But I hadnt seen it in print anywhere...is that just me?"
https://archive.org/stream/VindicationVolume3ByJudgeRutherford/1932-VINDICATION-3#page/n191/mode/2up
Second paragraph under "For busy people".
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
Village Idiot

@ myelaine:
"...He was able to redeem the situation for His benefit and the benefit of those killed...by delivering those killed...to Himself."
So god allows people to die so that they can be with him, right? Why can they not just live a natural, safe life and be redeemed after they die of old age?
303
The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k
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@ cofty: "This right here is why I hate theism with a passion."
I don't want to get into semantics but "Theism" is simply the belief in a god not necessarily the belief in the Biblical/Quranic god. A Deist, which is one form of Theism, believes in a creator god but not the biblical god. You might want to exclude them from your hatred even though you don't believe in their worldview.
I speak as an atheist.
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All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?
by sowhatnow in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.
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apostrate,
It's interesting to note that although some Bible Students organizations are still around the Witnesses are the only ones who grew to much larger numbers. That too was Rutherford's doing. "Advertise, advertise, advertise the King and his Kingdom!".
I bring that up because the larger a group becomes the less likely they are to completely disappear. I think however that the Witnesses are so tied in to their governing body that no one is likely to become a new leader of a JW sect. Either way it would be interesting to see if they implode and how.
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Does forever mean forever?
by I_love_Jeff in
1. watchtower
2. bible
1 chronicles 28:9 "and you, my son solomon, acknowledge the god of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought.

if you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

is the word "forever" literal or figurative?
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Is olam the word that the New World Translation translates as "time indefinite"?